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registered interest false more like this
date less than 2018-10-08more like thismore than 2018-10-08
answering body
Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
answering dept id 201 more like this
answering dept short name Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
answering dept sort name Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
hansard heading Energy: Housing remove filter
house id 1 more like this
legislature
25259
pref label House of Commons more like this
question text To ask the Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy, how many homes in the UK are in Energy Performance Band E or lower. more like this
tabling member constituency Bristol West more like this
tabling member printed
Thangam Debbonaire more like this
uin 176377 more like this
answer
answer
is ministerial correction false more like this
date of answer less than 2018-10-17more like thismore than 2018-10-17
answer text <p>Latest figures for the number of homes (thousands) in Energy Performance Band D or higher and Band E or lower for England and the Devolved Nations.</p><p> </p><table><tbody><tr><td><p> </p></td><td><p>England <em>(2016)</em></p></td><td><p>Scotland <em>(2016)</em></p></td><td><p>Northern Ireland <em>(2016)</em></p></td><td><p>Wales <em>(2008)</em></p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Band D or higher (thousands)</p></td><td><p>18,290</p></td><td><p>2,031</p></td><td><p>643</p></td><td><p>558</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Band E or lower (thousands)</p></td><td><p>4,707</p></td><td><p>422</p></td><td><p>99</p></td><td><p>711</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Total number of homes (thousands)</p></td><td><p>22,996</p></td><td><p>2,452</p></td><td><p>742</p></td><td><p>1,268</p></td></tr><tr><td colspan="5"><p>Figures may not sum to totals due to rounding</p></td></tr></tbody></table><p> </p><p>Please note, these figures should not be summed to give a UK total, or compared between nations due to the following differences:</p><p>(1) The latest data available for Wales is from 2008, 2016 data will be published in November 2018.</p><p>(2) Figures for Wales relate to number of dwellings (which includes vacant properties) whereas figures for England, Scotland and Northern Ireland relate to number of households (excluding vacant properties).</p><p>(3) Each nation uses a different methodology for calculating Energy Performance. The main difference being Welsh figures are based on SAP 2005, whereas figures for England, Scotland and Northern Ireland are based on SAP 2012.</p><p> </p><p>Data sources</p><p>MHCLG. (2016). English Housing Survey.</p><p>Scottish Government. (2016). Scottish House Condition Survey.</p><p>Housing Executive. (2016). Northern Ireland House Condition Survey.</p><p>Welsh Government. (2008). Living in Wales Survey.</p>
answering member constituency Devizes more like this
answering member printed Claire Perry more like this
grouped question UIN 176378 more like this
question first answered
less than 2018-10-17T15:38:35.893Zmore like thismore than 2018-10-17T15:38:35.893Z
answering member
3974
label Biography information for Claire Perry more like this
tabling member
4433
label Biography information for Thangam Debbonaire more like this
983250
registered interest false more like this
date less than 2018-10-08more like thismore than 2018-10-08
answering body
Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
answering dept id 201 more like this
answering dept short name Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
answering dept sort name Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
hansard heading Energy: Housing remove filter
house id 1 more like this
legislature
25259
pref label House of Commons more like this
question text To ask the Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy, how many homes in the UK are in Energy Performance Band D or higher. more like this
tabling member constituency Bristol West more like this
tabling member printed
Thangam Debbonaire more like this
uin 176378 more like this
answer
answer
is ministerial correction false more like this
date of answer less than 2018-10-17more like thismore than 2018-10-17
answer text <p>Latest figures for the number of homes (thousands) in Energy Performance Band D or higher and Band E or lower for England and the Devolved Nations.</p><p> </p><table><tbody><tr><td><p> </p></td><td><p>England <em>(2016)</em></p></td><td><p>Scotland <em>(2016)</em></p></td><td><p>Northern Ireland <em>(2016)</em></p></td><td><p>Wales <em>(2008)</em></p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Band D or higher (thousands)</p></td><td><p>18,290</p></td><td><p>2,031</p></td><td><p>643</p></td><td><p>558</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Band E or lower (thousands)</p></td><td><p>4,707</p></td><td><p>422</p></td><td><p>99</p></td><td><p>711</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Total number of homes (thousands)</p></td><td><p>22,996</p></td><td><p>2,452</p></td><td><p>742</p></td><td><p>1,268</p></td></tr><tr><td colspan="5"><p>Figures may not sum to totals due to rounding</p></td></tr></tbody></table><p> </p><p>Please note, these figures should not be summed to give a UK total, or compared between nations due to the following differences:</p><p>(1) The latest data available for Wales is from 2008, 2016 data will be published in November 2018.</p><p>(2) Figures for Wales relate to number of dwellings (which includes vacant properties) whereas figures for England, Scotland and Northern Ireland relate to number of households (excluding vacant properties).</p><p>(3) Each nation uses a different methodology for calculating Energy Performance. The main difference being Welsh figures are based on SAP 2005, whereas figures for England, Scotland and Northern Ireland are based on SAP 2012.</p><p> </p><p>Data sources</p><p>MHCLG. (2016). English Housing Survey.</p><p>Scottish Government. (2016). Scottish House Condition Survey.</p><p>Housing Executive. (2016). Northern Ireland House Condition Survey.</p><p>Welsh Government. (2008). Living in Wales Survey.</p>
answering member constituency Devizes more like this
answering member printed Claire Perry more like this
grouped question UIN 176377 more like this
question first answered
less than 2018-10-17T15:38:35.957Zmore like thismore than 2018-10-17T15:38:35.957Z
answering member
3974
label Biography information for Claire Perry more like this
tabling member
4433
label Biography information for Thangam Debbonaire more like this
933774
registered interest false more like this
date less than 2018-07-02more like thismore than 2018-07-02
answering body
Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
answering dept id 201 more like this
answering dept short name Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
answering dept sort name Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
hansard heading Energy: Housing remove filter
house id 1 more like this
legislature
25259
pref label House of Commons more like this
question text To ask the Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy, how many feed-in tariff applications have been made in respect of houses with an Energy Performance Certificate of (a) D or higher and (b) E or lower in the most recent 12 months for which data are available. more like this
tabling member constituency Bristol West more like this
tabling member printed
Thangam Debbonaire more like this
uin 159646 more like this
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answer
is ministerial correction false more like this
date of answer less than 2018-07-09more like thismore than 2018-07-09
answer text <p>In the period June 2017 to June 2018, 13,428 applications for the Feed-in-Tariff scheme were made in respect of premises where Ofgem know that it had an Energy Performance Certificate (EPC) of level D or above. Ofgem does not hold data in relation to premises with FIT installations which have an EPC of level E or below</p> more like this
answering member constituency Devizes more like this
answering member printed Claire Perry more like this
question first answered
less than 2018-07-09T14:35:01.563Zmore like thismore than 2018-07-09T14:35:01.563Z
answering member
3974
label Biography information for Claire Perry more like this
tabling member
4433
label Biography information for Thangam Debbonaire more like this
922026
registered interest false more like this
date less than 2018-06-11more like thismore than 2018-06-11
answering body
Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
answering dept id 201 more like this
answering dept short name Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
answering dept sort name Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
hansard heading Energy: Housing remove filter
house id 1 more like this
legislature
25259
pref label House of Commons more like this
question text To ask the Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy, how much electricity an average UK household consumed per annum in each year since 2010 for which information is available; and if he will make a statement. more like this
tabling member constituency Shipley more like this
tabling member printed
Philip Davies more like this
uin 152113 more like this
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is ministerial correction false more like this
date of answer less than 2018-06-19more like thismore than 2018-06-19
answer text <p>Average annual electricity consumption in the UK is shown in the table below;</p><p> </p><p><em><strong>Average annual consumption per household (kWh)</strong></em></p><table><tbody><tr><td><p> </p></td><td><p><strong>2010</strong></p></td><td><p><strong>2011</strong></p></td><td><p><strong>2012</strong></p></td><td><p><strong>2013</strong></p></td><td><p><strong>2014</strong></p></td><td><p><strong>2015</strong></p></td><td><p><strong>2016</strong></p></td><td><p><strong>2017</strong></p></td></tr><tr><td><p>kWh</p></td><td><p>4,520</p></td><td><p>4,214</p></td><td><p>4,292</p></td><td><p>4,209</p></td><td><p>3,971</p></td><td><p>3,921</p></td><td><p>3,889</p></td><td><p>3,750</p></td></tr></tbody></table><p> </p><p> </p><p><em>* Source; <a href="https://www.gov.uk/government/statistical-data-sets/annual-domestic-energy-price-statistics" target="_blank">Quarterly Energy Prices, Average annual domestic electricity bills, table QEP 2.2.5</a></em></p> more like this
answering member constituency Devizes more like this
answering member printed Claire Perry more like this
question first answered
less than 2018-06-19T13:19:17Zmore like thismore than 2018-06-19T13:19:17Z
answering member
3974
label Biography information for Claire Perry more like this
tabling member
1565
label Biography information for Sir Philip Davies more like this
900470
registered interest false more like this
date less than 2018-05-09more like thismore than 2018-05-09
answering body
Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
answering dept id 201 more like this
answering dept short name Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
answering dept sort name Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
hansard heading Energy: Housing remove filter
house id 1 more like this
legislature
25259
pref label House of Commons more like this
question text To ask the Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy, what steps he is taking to help consumers save domestic household energy. more like this
tabling member constituency Washington and Sunderland West more like this
tabling member printed
Mrs Sharon Hodgson more like this
uin 142374 more like this
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answer
is ministerial correction false more like this
date of answer less than 2018-05-17more like thismore than 2018-05-17
answer text <p>The Clean Growth Strategy (the Strategy), sets out Government’s aspiration that as many homes as possible will be upgraded to an Energy Performance Certificate (EPC) band C by 2035, where practical, cost-effective and affordable. To meet this aspiration, several policies and proposals, which will also help consumers to save domestic household energy, have been outlined in the Strategy, including:</p><p>1) Developing a long-term trajectory to improve the energy performance standards of privately rented homes, with the aim of upgrading as many homes as possible to EPC Band C by 2030 where practical, cost-effective and affordable. We will consider options by consulting on this in 2018 and looking at how social housing can meet equivalent standards over the same period.</p><p>2) Seeking evidence on building a market for energy efficiency, including additional measures to improve energy performance of owner occupied homes through a Call for Evidence published alongside the Clean Growth Strategy. This Call for Evidence closed on 9 January 2018. Following an evaluation of the responses, we will publish an action plan on additional market-based measures later in 2018.</p><p>3) Following the outcome of the independent review of Building Regulations and fire safety, and subject to its conclusions, consulting on strengthening energy performance standards for new and existing homes under Building Regulations, including futureproofing new homes for low carbon heating systems.</p><p>4) We have recently consulted on reforms to ECO which would focus the whole scheme on low income and vulnerable households whilst encouraging more innovation so bring down the long-term costs of energy efficiency.</p><p>5) This proposal and our commitment to extend support for home energy efficiency improvements until 2028 at the current level of ECO funding, will support over £6 billion of investment over the next decade.</p><p>The Government has also committed to ensuring that every home and small business in the country is offered a smart meter by the end of 2020. Smart meters will enable customers to take control of their energy use, save money on bills and reduce their household energy.</p><p> </p>
answering member constituency Devizes more like this
answering member printed Claire Perry more like this
question first answered
less than 2018-05-17T15:17:56.477Zmore like thismore than 2018-05-17T15:17:56.477Z
answering member
3974
label Biography information for Claire Perry more like this
tabling member
1521
label Biography information for Mrs Sharon Hodgson more like this
889946
registered interest false more like this
date less than 2018-04-23more like thismore than 2018-04-23
answering body
Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
answering dept id 201 more like this
answering dept short name Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
answering dept sort name Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
hansard heading Energy: Housing remove filter
house id 1 more like this
legislature
25259
pref label House of Commons more like this
question text To ask the Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy, what steps he is taking to ensure that as many as possible (a) new and (b) existing homes reach energy performance certificate band C by 2035. more like this
tabling member constituency Wentworth and Dearne more like this
tabling member printed
John Healey more like this
uin 136998 more like this
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is ministerial correction false more like this
date of answer less than 2018-05-01more like thismore than 2018-05-01
answer text <p>The Clean Growth Strategy outlined a number of policies and proposals to help us make progress against Government’s aspiration that as many homes as possible will be upgraded to an Energy Performance Certificate (EPC) Band C by 2035, where practical, cost-effective and affordable. This included:</p><p> </p><ol><li>A commitment to funding the Energy Company Obligation (ECO), until 2022 at a projected cost of £640 million per year, with an increased focus on supporting innovative measures in the scheme, and extending support for home energy efficiency improvements until 2028, at least at the current level of ECO funding. Between 2015 and 2020, ECO will upgrade around a million homes supporting £3.6 billion of investment.</li><li>Developing a long term trajectory to improve the energy performance standards of privately rented homes, with the aim of upgrading as many as possible to EPC Band C by 2030 where practical, cost-effective and affordable. We will consider options with a view to consulting on this in 2018 and looking at how social housing can meet equivalent standards over the same period.</li><li>Consulting on strengthening energy performance standards for new and existing homes under Building Regulations, including futureproofing new homes for low carbon heating systems, following the outcome of the independent review of Building Regulations and fire safety, and subject to its conclusions.</li><li>Seeking evidence on building a market for energy efficiency, including additional measures to improve energy performance of owner occupied homes through a Call for Evidence published alongside the Clean Growth Strategy. This Call for Evidence closed on 9th January 2018.Following an evaluation of the responses, we will publish an action plan setting out our approach to building the market, later in 2018.</li><li>Driving innovation to bring down the costs of improving homes. As part of this the government launched two new £10 million innovation programmes to develop new and improved energy efficiency and heating technologies to help reduce the cost of improving homes. The funds closed to applicants on 2 January, and we are currently reviewing bids.</li></ol>
answering member constituency Devizes more like this
answering member printed Claire Perry more like this
question first answered
less than 2018-05-01T16:39:15.147Zmore like thismore than 2018-05-01T16:39:15.147Z
answering member
3974
label Biography information for Claire Perry more like this
tabling member
400
label Biography information for John Healey more like this
889951
registered interest false more like this
date less than 2018-04-23more like thismore than 2018-04-23
answering body
Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
answering dept id 201 more like this
answering dept short name Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
answering dept sort name Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
hansard heading Energy: Housing remove filter
house id 1 more like this
legislature
25259
pref label House of Commons more like this
question text To ask the Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy, what assessment he has made of the potential merits of including energy efficiency in the lending decisions of mortgage companies. more like this
tabling member constituency Wentworth and Dearne more like this
tabling member printed
John Healey more like this
uin 137003 more like this
answer
answer
is ministerial correction false more like this
date of answer less than 2018-05-01more like thismore than 2018-05-01
answer text <p>In the Clean Growth Strategy, the Government set out that we would work with mortgage lenders to develop green mortgage products that take account of the lower lending risk as a result of the reduced energy costs associated with more energy efficient properties.</p><p> </p><p>The Government also supported the ‘LENDERS’ project with funding from Innovate UK. The LENDERS project, which reported in 2017, looked at the impact of including more accurate estimates of energy bills in mortgage affordability assessments.</p><p> </p><p>Alongside the Clean Growth Strategy, the government published a Call for Evidence on building a market for energy efficiency which included proposals for encouraging lenders to offer green mortgage products. This Call for Evidence closed on 9 January 2018. Following an evaluation of the responses, we will publish an action plan on additional market based measures later in 2018.</p><p> </p><p>Following the publication of the Clean Growth Strategy, BEIS and HM Treasury ministers also jointly set up a Green Finance Taskforce, which brought together senior leaders from the finance sector. Their objectives were to help deliver the investment needed to meet the ambitions and commitments set out in the Clean Growth Strategy, whilst consolidating the UK’s leadership in financing international low carbon investment. The Taskforce published their recommendations in March this year, including how to encourage the development of green mortgage products. The government is currently considering these recommendations and will respond in due course.</p><p> </p><p>We are already seeing progress, and leadership from within the finance sector. Following the Green Finance Taskforce’s recommendations and the success of their Green Bond, launched in November, Barclays recently launched the first green mortgage product by a major UK lender, which will reward homebuyers who choose to buy an energy efficient new build home with a lower interest rate on their mortgage. This is an encouraging step and I hope other lenders will follow suit.</p>
answering member constituency Devizes more like this
answering member printed Claire Perry more like this
question first answered
less than 2018-05-01T16:37:25.65Zmore like thismore than 2018-05-01T16:37:25.65Z
answering member
3974
label Biography information for Claire Perry more like this
tabling member
400
label Biography information for John Healey more like this
867422
registered interest false more like this
date less than 2018-03-20more like thismore than 2018-03-20
answering body
Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
answering dept id 201 more like this
answering dept short name Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
answering dept sort name Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
hansard heading Energy: Housing remove filter
house id 1 more like this
legislature
25259
pref label House of Commons more like this
question text To ask the Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy, what assessment he has made of the (a) level of further cost-effective energy efficiency measures that could be installed in homes and (b) effect of those measures on the energy bills of those households. more like this
tabling member constituency Shipley more like this
tabling member printed
Philip Davies more like this
uin 133397 more like this
answer
answer
is ministerial correction false more like this
date of answer less than 2018-03-28more like thismore than 2018-03-28
answer text <p>(a) There is a large range of cost effective energy efficiency measures households could install in their homes. Each household has its own set of energy requirements. However, so a measure that is cost effective for one household may not be cost effective for another. The recent consultation impact assessment for the revised Private Rental Sector Regulations (see table 3a) shows the types of measures we expect to be installed to improve Energy Performance Certificate (EPC) Band F and G properties to band E[1]. This gives an indication, for each budget cap, of the likely mix of measures we would expect to be a cost effective way to improve the energy performance of homes.</p><p> </p><p>(b) As set out in the Clean Growth Strategy, upgrading the energy performance of homes can lead to significant bill savings for consumers. For example, the annual running costs of an EPC Band C rated home are £270 lower than the average Band D rated home and £650 less than the average Band E home.</p><p> </p><p>[1] <a href="https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/669214/PRS_Consultation_stage_IA.pdf" target="_blank">https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/669214/PRS_Consultation_stage_IA.pdf</a></p>
answering member constituency Devizes more like this
answering member printed Claire Perry more like this
question first answered
less than 2018-03-28T14:22:24.91Zmore like thismore than 2018-03-28T14:22:24.91Z
answering member
3974
label Biography information for Claire Perry more like this
tabling member
1565
label Biography information for Sir Philip Davies more like this
867510
registered interest false more like this
date less than 2018-03-20more like thismore than 2018-03-20
answering body
Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
answering dept id 201 more like this
answering dept short name Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
answering dept sort name Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
hansard heading Energy: Housing remove filter
house id 1 more like this
legislature
25259
pref label House of Commons more like this
question text To ask the Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy, whether he has plans to allocate funding from the public purse for home energy efficiency installations; and if he will make a statement. more like this
tabling member constituency Kilmarnock and Loudoun more like this
tabling member printed
Alan Brown more like this
uin 133485 more like this
answer
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is ministerial correction false more like this
date of answer less than 2018-04-13more like thismore than 2018-04-13
answer text <p>The Clean Growth Strategy (CGS), published in October 2017, sets out a number of policies and proposals to encourage home energy efficiency installations including;</p><ol><li>A £6 billion package to help end fuel poverty and drive innovation in energy efficiency. Government recently launched a consultation focussing on 100% of the £640m per year ECO scheme on the fuel poor which would see energy saving improvements like insulation and modern efficient heating systems installed in 900,000 homes by March 2022. The government also committed to maintaining funding for home energy efficiency until at least 2028 as part of the Clean Growth Strategy</li><li>Seeking evidence on building a market for energy efficiency, including additional measures to improve the energy performance of owner occupied homes through a Call for Evidence. The Call for Evidence explored a number of potential policies including fiscal incentives for energy efficiency, price signals to reward more efficient properties, and new incentives for network companies and mortgage lenders. The consultation period closed on 9<sup>th</sup> Jan 2018. Following an evaluation of responses, the government will put forward a plan of action for the years to come, later in 2018.</li><li>Working with mortgage lenders to incorporate energy efficiency into their lending decisions, alongside developing innovative “green mortgage” products. BEIS and HM Treasury ministers jointly set up a Green Finance Taskforce, which brought together senior leaders from the finance sector. Their objectives were to help deliver the investment needed to meet the ambitions and commitments set out in the CGS, whilst consolidating the UK’s leadership in financing international low carbon investment. The Taskforce recently published their recommendations, including how to encourage development of green mortgage products. The government is currently considering these recommendations and will respond in due course.</li><li>As a response to the Taskforce’ recommendations and following the success of their Green Bond, launched in November, Barclays are the first major lender in the UK to launch a green mortgage product which will reward homebuyers who choose to buy an energy efficient new build home with a lower interest rate on their mortgages. This is an encouraging step and we hope other lenders will follow suit.</li></ol>
answering member constituency Devizes more like this
answering member printed Claire Perry more like this
question first answered
less than 2018-04-13T08:26:29.217Zmore like thismore than 2018-04-13T08:26:29.217Z
answering member
3974
label Biography information for Claire Perry more like this
previous answer version
49835
answering member constituency Devizes more like this
answering member printed Claire Perry more like this
answering member
3974
label Biography information for Claire Perry more like this
tabling member
4470
label Biography information for Alan Brown more like this
861266
registered interest false more like this
date less than 2018-03-13more like thismore than 2018-03-13
answering body
Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
answering dept id 201 more like this
answering dept short name Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
answering dept sort name Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
hansard heading Energy: Housing remove filter
house id 1 more like this
legislature
25259
pref label House of Commons more like this
question text To ask the Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy, what assessment has he made of the benefits of domestic powerwalls as a means of (a) storing energy created by renewables and (b) providing the grid energy to manage peaks in demand. more like this
tabling member constituency Easington more like this
tabling member printed
Grahame Morris more like this
uin 132415 more like this
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is ministerial correction false more like this
date of answer less than 2018-03-22more like thismore than 2018-03-22
answer text <p>The Government and Ofgem published <em>Upgrading our Energy System: a Smart Systems and Flexibility Plan</em> in July 2017, which outlines a series of actions to support the transition to a smart energy system. It presented an assessment of changes in our energy system, and considered a range of benefits that energy storage systems – including home batteries or ‘powerwalls’ – can deliver. These benefits include maximising the usable output from renewable generation and ‘load shifting’ to manage peaks in demand. Research by Imperial College and the Carbon Trust estimates that deploying smart, flexible technologies, such as energy storage, can save up to £40 billion across the GB electricity system to 2050.</p> more like this
answering member constituency Devizes more like this
answering member printed Claire Perry more like this
question first answered
less than 2018-03-22T11:28:34.583Zmore like thismore than 2018-03-22T11:28:34.583Z
answering member
3974
label Biography information for Claire Perry more like this
tabling member
3973
label Biography information for Grahame Morris more like this