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1148156
registered interest false more like this
date remove maximum value filtermore like thismore than 2019-10-03
answering body
Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
answering dept id 201 more like this
answering dept short name Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
answering dept sort name Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
hansard heading Fuel Poverty more like this
house id 1 more like this
legislature
25259
pref label House of Commons more like this
question text To ask the Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy, how many households were in fuel poverty in the UK in 2018. more like this
tabling member constituency Woking more like this
tabling member printed
Mr Jonathan Lord more like this
uin 294165 more like this
answer
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is ministerial correction false more like this
date of answer less than 2019-10-08more like thismore than 2019-10-08
answer text <p>Fuel poverty is a devolved issue, with each nation in the UK having its own fuel poverty definition. Due to both definitional and methodological differences, fuel poverty is not published for the UK level.</p><p>Latest data for each of the four nations is available at the following links:</p><p>England: <a href="https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/annual-fuel-poverty-statistics-report-2019" target="_blank">https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/annual-fuel-poverty-statistics-report-2019</a></p><p>Scotland: <a href="https://www.gov.scot/publications/scottish-house-condition-survey-2017-key-findings/" target="_blank">https://www.gov.scot/publications/scottish-house-condition-survey-2017-key-findings/</a></p><p>Wales: <a href="https://gov.wales/fuel-poverty-estimates-wales" target="_blank">https://gov.wales/fuel-poverty-estimates-wales</a></p><p>Northern Ireland: <a href="https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/estimates-of-fuel-poverty-in-northern-ireland-in-2017-and-2018" target="_blank">https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/estimates-of-fuel-poverty-in-northern-ireland-in-2017-and-2018</a></p>
answering member constituency Spelthorne remove filter
answering member printed Kwasi Kwarteng more like this
question first answered
less than 2019-10-08T10:19:23.973Zmore like thismore than 2019-10-08T10:19:23.973Z
answering member
4134
label Biography information for Kwasi Kwarteng more like this
tabling member
4090
label Biography information for Mr Jonathan Lord more like this
1148196
registered interest false more like this
date remove maximum value filtermore like thismore than 2019-10-03
answering body
Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
answering dept id 201 more like this
answering dept short name Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
answering dept sort name Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
hansard heading Wind Power: Seas and Oceans more like this
house id 1 more like this
legislature
25259
pref label House of Commons more like this
question text To ask the Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy, if she will list the offshore wind farm constraint payments made by the National Grid Electricity Systems Operator in each month since April 2019. more like this
tabling member constituency Brighton, Kemptown more like this
tabling member printed
Lloyd Russell-Moyle more like this
uin 294224 more like this
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is ministerial correction false more like this
date of answer less than 2019-10-08more like thismore than 2019-10-08
answer text <p>National Grid Electricity System Operator (NGESO) publishes details of constraint payments by generation type in its ‘Monthly Balancing Services Summary’, which is available at: <a href="https://www.nationalgrideso.com/balancing-data/system-balancing-reports" target="_blank">https://www.nationalgrideso.com/balancing-data/system-balancing-reports</a> The addition published on 30 September 2019 contains the latest data on constraint payments made since NGESO was created on 1<sup>st</sup> April 2019, and the sections on ‘Constraint actions by fuel type’ and ‘Wind generation’ are most relevant. Detailed information on constraint payments to individual generation projects is published by Elexon, and is available at: <a href="https://www.bmreports.com/bmrs/?q=balancing/" target="_blank">https://www.bmreports.com/bmrs/?q=balancing/</a></p> more like this
answering member constituency Spelthorne remove filter
answering member printed Kwasi Kwarteng more like this
grouped question UIN 294225 more like this
question first answered
less than 2019-10-08T14:03:35.303Zmore like thismore than 2019-10-08T14:03:35.303Z
answering member
4134
label Biography information for Kwasi Kwarteng more like this
tabling member
4615
label Biography information for Lloyd Russell-Moyle more like this
1148197
registered interest false more like this
date remove maximum value filtermore like thismore than 2019-10-03
answering body
Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
answering dept id 201 more like this
answering dept short name Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
answering dept sort name Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
hansard heading Wind Power: Expenditure more like this
house id 1 more like this
legislature
25259
pref label House of Commons more like this
question text To ask the Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy, what the average value of constraint payments made by National Grid Electricity Systems Operator (NGESO) was to (a) onshore and (b) offshore wind energy companies in each month since NGESO was created. more like this
tabling member constituency Brighton, Kemptown more like this
tabling member printed
Lloyd Russell-Moyle more like this
uin 294225 more like this
answer
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is ministerial correction false more like this
date of answer less than 2019-10-08more like thismore than 2019-10-08
answer text <p>National Grid Electricity System Operator (NGESO) publishes details of constraint payments by generation type in its ‘Monthly Balancing Services Summary’, which is available at: <a href="https://www.nationalgrideso.com/balancing-data/system-balancing-reports" target="_blank">https://www.nationalgrideso.com/balancing-data/system-balancing-reports</a> The addition published on 30 September 2019 contains the latest data on constraint payments made since NGESO was created on 1<sup>st</sup> April 2019, and the sections on ‘Constraint actions by fuel type’ and ‘Wind generation’ are most relevant. Detailed information on constraint payments to individual generation projects is published by Elexon, and is available at: <a href="https://www.bmreports.com/bmrs/?q=balancing/" target="_blank">https://www.bmreports.com/bmrs/?q=balancing/</a></p> more like this
answering member constituency Spelthorne remove filter
answering member printed Kwasi Kwarteng more like this
grouped question UIN 294224 more like this
question first answered
less than 2019-10-08T14:03:35.35Zmore like thismore than 2019-10-08T14:03:35.35Z
answering member
4134
label Biography information for Kwasi Kwarteng more like this
tabling member
4615
label Biography information for Lloyd Russell-Moyle more like this
1148198
registered interest false more like this
date remove maximum value filtermore like thismore than 2019-10-03
answering body
Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
answering dept id 201 more like this
answering dept short name Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
answering dept sort name Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
hansard heading Wind Power: Subsidies more like this
house id 1 more like this
legislature
25259
pref label House of Commons more like this
question text To ask the Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy, what the average subsidy payment per megawatt hour of energy produced was to (a) onshore and (b) offshore wind companies in each month since January 2017. more like this
tabling member constituency Brighton, Kemptown more like this
tabling member printed
Lloyd Russell-Moyle more like this
uin 294226 more like this
answer
answer
is ministerial correction false more like this
date of answer less than 2019-10-08more like thismore than 2019-10-08
answer text <p>The average subsidy payment<sup> (1)(2)(3)</sup> to onshore and offshore wind companies per megawatt hour of electricity produced each month was:</p><p> </p><table><tbody><tr><td><p> </p></td><td><p><strong>Onshore wind</strong> <strong>(£/MWh)</strong></p></td><td><p><strong>Offshore wind </strong> <strong>(£/MWh)</strong></p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Jan 2017</p></td><td><p>52.04</p></td><td><p>84.87</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Feb 2017</p></td><td><p>51.76</p></td><td><p>84.93</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Mar 2017</p></td><td><p>51.31</p></td><td><p>84.67</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Apr 2017</p></td><td><p>52.26</p></td><td><p>87.71</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>May 2017</p></td><td><p>52.30</p></td><td><p>88.28</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Jun 2017</p></td><td><p>52.26</p></td><td><p>88.63</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Jul 2017</p></td><td><p>51.81</p></td><td><p>88.75</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Aug 2017</p></td><td><p>52.07</p></td><td><p>89.72</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Sep 2017</p></td><td><p>52.21</p></td><td><p>89.16</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Oct 2017</p></td><td><p>51.92</p></td><td><p>89.93</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Nov 2017</p></td><td><p>52.21</p></td><td><p>89.67</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Dec 2017</p></td><td><p>51.64</p></td><td><p>88.87</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Jan 2018</p></td><td><p>51.50</p></td><td><p>89.84</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Feb 2018</p></td><td><p>51.47</p></td><td><p>89.43</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Mar 2018</p></td><td><p>51.59</p></td><td><p>88.45</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Apr 2018</p></td><td><p>52.79</p></td><td><p>93.45</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>May 2018</p></td><td><p>52.64</p></td><td><p>93.35</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Jun 2018</p></td><td><p>53.79</p></td><td><p>93.37</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Jul 2018</p></td><td><p>53.27</p></td><td><p>93.36</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Aug 2018</p></td><td><p>52.51</p></td><td><p>92.97</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Sep 2018</p></td><td><p>52.98</p></td><td><p>91.85</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Oct 2018</p></td><td><p>52.56</p></td><td><p>92.10</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Nov 2018</p></td><td><p>52.38</p></td><td><p>92.41</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Dec 2018</p></td><td><p>52.38</p></td><td><p>92.11</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Jan 2019</p></td><td><p>52.06</p></td><td><p>92.68</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Feb 2019</p></td><td><p>51.93</p></td><td><p>95.10</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Mar 2019</p></td><td><p>52.83</p></td><td><p>95.88</p></td></tr></tbody></table><p> </p><p>(1) Subsidies are the Renewables Obligation, Contracts for Difference (CfD), and Feed-in Tariff (FIT). The bulk of the above support is from the Renewables Obligation. Going forward, we expect the average subsidy payment figures to fall as more projects are supported under the competitive Contracts for Difference scheme*.</p><p>(2) Includes payments to domestic and community FIT schemes for onshore wind.</p><p>(3) Spend is in real terms.</p><p>For the Renewables Obligation, the full value of support is made up of a main payment and a much smaller subsidiary payment. As the value of the subsidiary payment is not yet known for any of the years, the above figures include only the main payment.</p><p>Data for April 2019 onwards are not yet available.</p><p><em>*The results of the third Contracts for Difference auction were announced on 20 September 2019. 12 new renewable electricity projects were awarded CfDs (6 offshore wind, 4 Remote Island Wind and two Advanced Conversion Technology projects), adding around 6GW of new clean electricity to the grid from 2023. The costs of offshore wind have come down by around two thirds since the first allocation round in 2015, with projects now being delivered for as little as £39.65/MWh. This is the first time that renewables are expected to come online below market prices.</em></p>
answering member constituency Spelthorne remove filter
answering member printed Kwasi Kwarteng more like this
question first answered
less than 2019-10-08T13:52:31.14Zmore like thismore than 2019-10-08T13:52:31.14Z
answering member
4134
label Biography information for Kwasi Kwarteng more like this
tabling member
4615
label Biography information for Lloyd Russell-Moyle more like this
1148199
registered interest false more like this
date remove maximum value filtermore like thismore than 2019-10-03
answering body
Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
answering dept id 201 more like this
answering dept short name Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
answering dept sort name Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
hansard heading Electricity: Storage more like this
house id 1 more like this
legislature
25259
pref label House of Commons more like this
question text To ask the Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy, when she plans to respond to her Department's consultation on proposals regarding the planning system for electricity storage. more like this
tabling member constituency Brighton, Kemptown more like this
tabling member printed
Lloyd Russell-Moyle more like this
uin 294227 more like this
answer
answer
is ministerial correction false more like this
date of answer less than 2019-10-08more like thismore than 2019-10-08
answer text <p>It has not proved possible to respond to the hon. Member in the time available before Prorogation.</p> more like this
answering member constituency Spelthorne remove filter
answering member printed Kwasi Kwarteng more like this
question first answered
less than 2019-10-08T16:55:17.85Zmore like thismore than 2019-10-08T16:55:17.85Z
answering member
4134
label Biography information for Kwasi Kwarteng more like this
tabling member
4615
label Biography information for Lloyd Russell-Moyle more like this
1147846
registered interest false more like this
date less than 2019-10-02more like thismore than 2019-10-02
answering body
Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
answering dept id 201 more like this
answering dept short name Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
answering dept sort name Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
hansard heading Energy: Meters more like this
house id 1 more like this
legislature
25259
pref label House of Commons more like this
question text To ask the Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy, what estimate she has made of the number of smart meters that have been replaced as a result of customers switching energy suppliers in the last 12 months; and if she will make a statement. more like this
tabling member constituency Wolverhampton North East more like this
tabling member printed
Emma Reynolds more like this
uin 293548 more like this
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answer
is ministerial correction false more like this
date of answer less than 2019-10-07more like thismore than 2019-10-07
answer text <p>Smart meters continue to record energy consumption accurately when a consumer switches energy supplier, even when the new energy supplier is temporarily unable to operate the meter in smart mode. Smart meters are rarely replaced when a consumer switches energy supplier. Of the total number of smart meters installed in Great Britain as of the end of 2018, less than 0.4% were replaced in the preceding 12 months following a consumer switch.</p><p> </p><p>Smart meters will give households the information to allow them to be more active consumers and more easily act upon poor service or expensive tariffs, and in time make switching suppliers easier and faster.</p> more like this
answering member constituency Spelthorne remove filter
answering member printed Kwasi Kwarteng more like this
question first answered
less than 2019-10-07T16:41:08.733Zmore like thismore than 2019-10-07T16:41:08.733Z
answering member
4134
label Biography information for Kwasi Kwarteng more like this
tabling member
4077
label Biography information for Emma Reynolds more like this
1147969
registered interest false more like this
date less than 2019-10-02more like thismore than 2019-10-02
answering body
Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
answering dept id 201 more like this
answering dept short name Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
answering dept sort name Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
hansard heading Mineworkers' Pension Scheme more like this
house id 1 more like this
legislature
25259
pref label House of Commons more like this
question text To ask the Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy, what recent assessment she has made of the potential merits of increasing the share of the miners' pension scheme’s surplus that goes to former miners. more like this
tabling member constituency Newcastle-under-Lyme more like this
tabling member printed
Paul Farrelly more like this
uin 293487 more like this
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is ministerial correction false more like this
date of answer less than 2019-10-08more like thismore than 2019-10-08
answer text <p>It has not proved possible to respond to the hon. Member in the time available before Prorogation.</p> more like this
answering member constituency Spelthorne remove filter
answering member printed Kwasi Kwarteng more like this
question first answered
less than 2019-10-08T16:57:14.127Zmore like thismore than 2019-10-08T16:57:14.127Z
answering member
4134
label Biography information for Kwasi Kwarteng more like this
tabling member
1436
label Biography information for Paul Farrelly more like this
1147399
registered interest false more like this
date less than 2019-10-01more like thismore than 2019-10-01
answering body
Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
answering dept id 201 more like this
answering dept short name Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
answering dept sort name Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
hansard heading Energy: Northern Ireland more like this
house id 1 more like this
legislature
25259
pref label House of Commons more like this
question text To ask the Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy, whether the Single Energy Area for Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland will continue in the event that the UK leaves the EU without a withdrawal agreement on 31 October 2019. more like this
tabling member constituency Cardiff Central more like this
tabling member printed
Jo Stevens more like this
uin 292933 more like this
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is ministerial correction false more like this
date of answer less than 2019-10-07more like thismore than 2019-10-07
answer text <p>It is the UK Government’s position that by far the best outcome for electricity in Northern Ireland is to maintain the Single Electricity Market (SEM). The UK is committed to seeking to maintain the SEM in any scenario and will therefore take all possible measures to do so.  Both the Ireland and Northern Ireland energy regulators have stated that they expect the SEM to continue if the UK leaves the EU without a withdrawal agreement. We will continue to work with the Irish Government to ensure that technical, operational and legal arrangements are in place for the SEM to continue in this scenario.</p> more like this
answering member constituency Spelthorne remove filter
answering member printed Kwasi Kwarteng more like this
question first answered
less than 2019-10-07T16:44:50.26Zmore like thismore than 2019-10-07T16:44:50.26Z
answering member
4134
label Biography information for Kwasi Kwarteng more like this
tabling member
4425
label Biography information for Jo Stevens more like this
1147442
registered interest false more like this
date less than 2019-10-01more like thismore than 2019-10-01
answering body
Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
answering dept id 201 more like this
answering dept short name Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
answering dept sort name Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
hansard heading Fuel Poverty: Merseyside more like this
house id 1 more like this
legislature
25259
pref label House of Commons more like this
question text To ask the Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy, how many households in (a) Wallasey constituency, (b) Wirral and (c) Merseyside are living in fuel poverty. more like this
tabling member constituency Wallasey more like this
tabling member printed
Ms Angela Eagle more like this
uin 292836 more like this
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is ministerial correction false more like this
date of answer less than 2019-10-07more like thismore than 2019-10-07
answer text <p>The number of households living in fuel poverty in 2017 in Wallasey constituency, Wirral and Merseyside can be found in the table below.</p><p><em> </em></p><p><em>Estimated number of households living in Fuel poverty, 2017</em></p><table><tbody><tr><td><p> </p></td><td><p>Wallasey Constituency</p></td><td><p>Wirral (Local Authority)</p></td><td><p>Merseyside[1]</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Estimated number of households in fuel poverty</p></td><td><p>6,300</p></td><td><p>19,900</p></td><td><p>92,700</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Proportion of households in fuel poverty (%)</p></td><td><p>15.3</p></td><td><p>13.5</p></td><td><p>14.7</p></td></tr></tbody></table><p>Household figures have been rounded to the nearest 100.</p><p>The latest sub-regional statistics can be found here : <a href="https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/sub-regional-fuel-poverty-data-2019" target="_blank">https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/sub-regional-fuel-poverty-data-2019</a>, Table 2, Table 4 and Table 5</p><p> </p><p>[1] Figures for Merseyside County has been derived from the 5 Metropolitan districts – Liverpool, Knowsley, St. Helens, Sefton and Wirral.</p><p> </p>
answering member constituency Spelthorne remove filter
answering member printed Kwasi Kwarteng more like this
question first answered
less than 2019-10-07T16:35:30.593Zmore like thismore than 2019-10-07T16:35:30.593Z
answering member
4134
label Biography information for Kwasi Kwarteng more like this
tabling member
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label Biography information for Dame Angela Eagle more like this
1147449
registered interest false more like this
date less than 2019-10-01more like thismore than 2019-10-01
answering body
Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
answering dept id 201 more like this
answering dept short name Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
answering dept sort name Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy more like this
hansard heading Renewable Energy: Carbon Emissions more like this
house id 1 more like this
legislature
25259
pref label House of Commons more like this
question text To ask the Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy, how many tonnes of carbon dioxide were displaced by renewable (a) electricity and (b) heat generation in (i) the UK, (ii) England, (iii) Scotland and (iv) Wales in (A) 2016, (B) 2017 and (C) 2018. more like this
tabling member constituency Kilmarnock and Loudoun more like this
tabling member printed
Alan Brown more like this
uin 292949 more like this
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is ministerial correction false more like this
date of answer less than 2019-10-08more like thismore than 2019-10-08
answer text <p>The Department for Business, Energy &amp; Industrial Strategy (BEIS) has not estimated how many tonnes of carbon dioxide emissions for electricity and heat generation have been displaced using renewable sources, as without renewable sources the mix of other sources would have differed.</p><p>Statistics on UK greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions are published annually by BEIS. The statistics are broken down by source sector.</p><p>Final statistics covering GHG emissions up to 2017 broken down by source sector can be found in table 3 of the publication: Final UK greenhouse gas emissions national statistics 1990-2017.</p><p><a href="https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gov.uk%2Fgovernment%2Fstatistics%2Ffinal-uk-greenhouse-gas-emissions-national-statistics-1990-2017&amp;data=02%7C01%7CJacob.Rose%40beis.gov.uk%7Cc55153f37078489e543308d747fd769d%7Ccbac700502c143ebb497e6492d1b2dd8%7C0%7C0%7C637057026251049777&amp;sdata=9w%2FM1qej9LjVcVEehSaGTOUemNH1adQ8j6ileLA7zmc%3D&amp;reserved=0" target="_blank">https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/final-uk-greenhouse-gas-emissions-national-statistics-1990-2017</a></p><p>Equivalent statistics for England, Scotland and Wales up to 2017 are available on the National Atmospheric Emissions Inventory (NAEI) website.</p><p><a href="https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnaei.beis.gov.uk%2Freports%2Freports%3Freport_id%3D991&amp;data=02%7C01%7CJacob.Rose%40beis.gov.uk%7Cc55153f37078489e543308d747fd769d%7Ccbac700502c143ebb497e6492d1b2dd8%7C0%7C0%7C637057026251059766&amp;sdata=iQseFJNJXPXvlFpIbWGhQhrNj3SlXoPmkksbGZNcGa0%3D&amp;reserved=0" target="_blank">https://naei.beis.gov.uk/reports/reports?report_id=991</a></p><p>Provisional statistics covering carbon dioxide emissions up to 2018 broken down by source sector can be found in table 1 of the publication: Provisional UK greenhouse gas emissions national statistics 2018.</p><p><a href="https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gov.uk%2Fgovernment%2Fstatistics%2Fprovisional-uk-greenhouse-gas-emissions-national-statistics-2018&amp;data=02%7C01%7CJacob.Rose%40beis.gov.uk%7Cc55153f37078489e543308d747fd769d%7Ccbac700502c143ebb497e6492d1b2dd8%7C0%7C0%7C637057026251059766&amp;sdata=HaeU3fCOxtrjSqO0QCsQyRY8KPYEsF292%2B9COFC1ZfM%3D&amp;reserved=0" target="_blank">https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/provisional-uk-greenhouse-gas-emissions-national-statistics-2018</a></p>
answering member constituency Spelthorne remove filter
answering member printed Kwasi Kwarteng more like this
question first answered
less than 2019-10-08T13:50:48.96Zmore like thismore than 2019-10-08T13:50:48.96Z
answering member
4134
label Biography information for Kwasi Kwarteng more like this
previous answer version
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answering member constituency Spelthorne more like this
answering member printed Kwasi Kwarteng more like this
answering member
4134
label Biography information for Kwasi Kwarteng more like this
tabling member
4470
label Biography information for Alan Brown more like this