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star this property date less than 2015-09-11more like thismore than 2015-09-11
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Department of Health remove filter
star this property answering dept id 17 more like this
star this property answering dept short name Health more like this
star this property answering dept sort name Health more like this
star this property hansard heading Eyesight: Testing remove filter
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star this property question text To ask the Secretary of State for Health, how many people were diagnosed with (a) a brain tumour and (b) other conditions as a result of symptoms noticed during examinations by opticians in the last 12 months. more like this
star this property tabling member constituency Strangford more like this
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Jim Shannon more like this
star this property uin 10017 more like this
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unstar this property date of answer less than 2015-09-17more like thismore than 2015-09-17
star this property answer text <p>Information provided by the Health and Social Care Information Centre shows that during 2013/14 there were 159,626 referrals from optometrists to secondary care. It is not possible, however, to identify a diagnosis given the collection of this information is not mandatory.</p><p> </p> more like this
star this property answering member constituency North East Bedfordshire more like this
star this property answering member printed Alistair Burt more like this
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less than 2015-09-17T10:07:37.39Zmore like thismore than 2015-09-17T10:07:37.39Z
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star this property label Biography information for Alistair Burt more like this
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unstar this property label Biography information for Jim Shannon more like this
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star this property date less than 2017-11-06more like thismore than 2017-11-06
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Department of Health remove filter
star this property answering dept id 17 more like this
star this property answering dept short name Health more like this
star this property answering dept sort name Health more like this
star this property hansard heading Eyesight: Testing remove filter
star this property house id 1 more like this
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star this property question text To ask the Secretary of State for Health, how many sight tests were carried out on the NHS in each clinical commissioning group area in the last 12 months for which data is available; and how many referrals for treatment there were for (a) AMD, glaucoma, (c) cataract and (d) diabetic eye disease in each such area in that same period. more like this
star this property tabling member constituency Vale of Clwyd more like this
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Chris Ruane more like this
star this property uin 111660 more like this
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unstar this property date of answer less than 2017-11-17more like thismore than 2017-11-17
star this property answer text <p>Data on the number of National Health Service sight tests is published as part of the General Ophthalmic Services activity statistics – England. Data is not broken down centrally to clinical commissioning group level. Data is held at the old NHS England area team level. The latest data (2016/17) is available in the table below:</p><p> </p><table><tbody><tr><td><p> </p></td><td><p>NHS funded sight tests provided</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>England</p></td><td><p>12,995,512</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>North of England Commissioning Region</p></td><td><p>3,790,619</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Cheshire, Warrington and Wirral Area Team</p></td><td><p>326,988</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Durham, Darlington and Tees Area Team</p></td><td><p>297,212</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Greater Manchester Area Team</p></td><td><p>661,857</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Lancashire Area Team</p></td><td><p>371,998</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Merseyside Area Team</p></td><td><p>268,316</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Cumbria, Northumberland, Tyne and Wear Area Team</p></td><td><p>466,270</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>North Yorkshire and Humber Area Team</p></td><td><p>447,007</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>South Yorkshire and Bassetlaw Area Team</p></td><td><p>358,000</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>West Yorkshire Area Team</p></td><td><p>592,971</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Midlands and East of England Commissioning Region</p></td><td><p>4,267,276</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Arden, Herefordshire and Worcestershire Area Team</p></td><td><p>407,761</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Birmingham and The Black Country Area Team</p></td><td><p>697,504</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire Area Team</p></td><td><p>477,935</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>East Anglia Area Team</p></td><td><p>637,926</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Essex Area Team</p></td><td><p>461,967</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Hertfordshire and The South Midlands Area Team</p></td><td><p>682,369</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Leicestershire and Lincolnshire Area Team</p></td><td><p>487,956</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Shropshire and Staffordshire Area Team</p></td><td><p>413,858</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>London Commissioning Region</p></td><td><p>1,623,908</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>London Area Team</p></td><td><p>1,623,908</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>South of England Commissioning Region</p></td><td><p>3,313,709</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Bath, Gloucestershire, Swindon and Wiltshire Area Team</p></td><td><p>357,439</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Bristol, North Somerset, Somerset and South Gloucestershire Area Team</p></td><td><p>357,718</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Devon, Cornwall and Isles of Scilly Area Team</p></td><td><p>455,674</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Kent and Medway Area Team</p></td><td><p>412,732</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Surrey and Sussex Area Team</p></td><td><p>674,937</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Thames Valley Area Team</p></td><td><p>436,231</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>Wessex Area Team</p></td><td><p>618,978</p></td></tr></tbody></table><p> </p><p>Data is not available on the number of referrals for treatment for age-related macular degeneration, glaucoma, cataract and diabetic eye disease.</p>
star this property answering member constituency Winchester more like this
star this property answering member printed Steve Brine more like this
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less than 2017-11-17T11:23:34.847Zmore like thismore than 2017-11-17T11:23:34.847Z
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star this property label Biography information for Steve Brine more like this
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unstar this property label Biography information for Chris Ruane more like this
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star this property date less than 2017-12-20more like thismore than 2017-12-20
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Department of Health remove filter
star this property answering dept id 17 more like this
star this property answering dept short name Health more like this
star this property answering dept sort name Health more like this
star this property hansard heading Eyesight: Testing remove filter
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star this property pref label House of Commons more like this
star this property question text To ask the Secretary of State for Health, if the Government will make an assessment of the potential merits of bringing forward a national eye health strategy. more like this
star this property tabling member constituency Brighton, Kemptown more like this
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Lloyd Russell-Moyle more like this
star this property uin 120605 more like this
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unstar this property date of answer less than 2018-01-08more like thismore than 2018-01-08
star this property answer text <p>Given the size of England, and the diversity of the health needs of different communities, we believe commissioning needs to be owned and managed locally and do not, therefore, believe there is merit in having a national eye health strategy. However, the Department supports Vision UK, an umbrella organisation for the eye health and sight loss sector, which aims to improve eye health and end sight loss, improve support across eye health and social care services and improve awareness of sight loss.</p> more like this
star this property answering member constituency Winchester more like this
star this property answering member printed Steve Brine more like this
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less than 2018-01-08T16:48:45.47Zmore like thismore than 2018-01-08T16:48:45.47Z
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star this property label Biography information for Steve Brine more like this
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unstar this property label Biography information for Lloyd Russell-Moyle more like this
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star this property date less than 2014-07-01more like thismore than 2014-07-01
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Department of Health remove filter
star this property answering dept id 17 more like this
star this property answering dept short name Health more like this
star this property answering dept sort name Health more like this
star this property hansard heading Eyesight: Testing remove filter
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25259
star this property pref label House of Commons more like this
star this property question text To ask the Secretary of State for Health, how many people have received eye tests on the NHS in each of the last five years. more like this
star this property tabling member constituency Strangford more like this
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Jim Shannon more like this
star this property uin 203219 more like this
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unstar this property date of answer less than 2014-07-07more like thismore than 2014-07-07
star this property answer text <p>The following table shows the number of National Health Service sight tests for persons in England from 2008-09 to 2012-13. This information has been extracted from the report, General Ophthalmic Services: Activity Statistics for England, Year ending 31 March 2013.</p><p> </p><table><tbody><tr><td><p>Year</p></td><td><p>Number of NHS Sight Tests in England</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>2012-13</p></td><td><p>12,339</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>2011-12</p></td><td><p>12,306</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>2010-11</p></td><td><p>11,939</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>2009-10</p></td><td><p>11,812</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>2008-09</p></td><td><p>11,278</p></td></tr></tbody></table><p> </p><p>This report, published July 18, 2013, can be accessed here:</p><p> </p><p>www.hscic.gov.uk/article/2021/Website-Search?productid=12003&amp;q=general+ophthalmic+services++activity+statistics+2013&amp;sort=Relevance&amp;size=10&amp;page=1&amp;area=both#top</p><p> </p> more like this
star this property answering member constituency Central Suffolk and North Ipswich more like this
star this property answering member printed Dr Daniel Poulter more like this
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less than 2014-07-07T15:51:50.5578039Zmore like thismore than 2014-07-07T15:51:50.5578039Z
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star this property label Biography information for Dr Dan Poulter more like this
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unstar this property label Biography information for Jim Shannon more like this
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star this property date less than 2015-02-26more like thismore than 2015-02-26
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Department of Health remove filter
star this property answering dept id 17 more like this
star this property answering dept short name Health more like this
star this property answering dept sort name Health more like this
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star this property question text To ask the Secretary of State for Health, what assessment he has made of the effectiveness of domiciliary sight tests for the diagnosis of (a) visual impairment and (b) eye health conditions in (i) children and (ii) adults with disabilities. more like this
star this property tabling member constituency Totnes more like this
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Dr Sarah Wollaston more like this
star this property uin 225539 more like this
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unstar this property date of answer less than 2015-03-05more like thismore than 2015-03-05
star this property answer text <p><strong> </strong></p><p> </p><p>Free National Health Service sight tests are available to people aged 60 and over, children under 16, those aged 16-18 in full-time education, people on low incomes and defined categories of people at particular risk of developing eye disease. NHS sight tests can also be provided as mobile services (domiciliary) to those eligible for an NHS sight test who are unable to leave home unaccompanied because of physical, mental illness or disability.</p><p> </p><p><strong> </strong></p><p> </p><p>During a sight test, a doctor or optometrist is legally required to perform such examinations as are necessary to detect signs of injury, disease or abnormality and to refer the patient for further investigation if necessary. They will also carry out tests to determine if the patient requires an optical appliance to correct a defect in sight. These requirements apply regardless of where the sight test occurs and therefore no specific assessment has been made as to the effectiveness of domiciliary sight tests compared to non-domiciliary provision.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>In 2013/14, domiciliary sight tests made up 3.3% of total NHS sight tests. At 428,109, this was 5% more than in 2012/13 (406,995). It is not possible to identify how many of these were provided to children or those eligible adults with disabilities.</p><p> </p>
star this property answering member constituency Central Suffolk and North Ipswich more like this
star this property answering member printed Dr Daniel Poulter more like this
star this property grouped question UIN 225540 more like this
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less than 2015-03-05T11:49:00.997Zmore like thismore than 2015-03-05T11:49:00.997Z
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star this property label Biography information for Dr Dan Poulter more like this
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unstar this property label Biography information for Dr Sarah Wollaston more like this
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star this property date less than 2015-02-26more like thismore than 2015-02-26
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Department of Health remove filter
star this property answering dept id 17 more like this
star this property answering dept short name Health more like this
star this property answering dept sort name Health more like this
star this property hansard heading Eyesight: Testing remove filter
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star this property question text To ask the Secretary of State for Health, what assessment he has made of the adequacy of implementation rates of domiciliary sight tests for (a) children and (b) adults with disabilities. more like this
star this property tabling member constituency Totnes more like this
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Dr Sarah Wollaston more like this
star this property uin 225540 more like this
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unstar this property date of answer less than 2015-03-05more like thismore than 2015-03-05
star this property answer text <p><strong> </strong></p><p> </p><p>Free National Health Service sight tests are available to people aged 60 and over, children under 16, those aged 16-18 in full-time education, people on low incomes and defined categories of people at particular risk of developing eye disease. NHS sight tests can also be provided as mobile services (domiciliary) to those eligible for an NHS sight test who are unable to leave home unaccompanied because of physical, mental illness or disability.</p><p> </p><p><strong> </strong></p><p> </p><p>During a sight test, a doctor or optometrist is legally required to perform such examinations as are necessary to detect signs of injury, disease or abnormality and to refer the patient for further investigation if necessary. They will also carry out tests to determine if the patient requires an optical appliance to correct a defect in sight. These requirements apply regardless of where the sight test occurs and therefore no specific assessment has been made as to the effectiveness of domiciliary sight tests compared to non-domiciliary provision.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>In 2013/14, domiciliary sight tests made up 3.3% of total NHS sight tests. At 428,109, this was 5% more than in 2012/13 (406,995). It is not possible to identify how many of these were provided to children or those eligible adults with disabilities.</p><p> </p>
star this property answering member constituency Central Suffolk and North Ipswich more like this
star this property answering member printed Dr Daniel Poulter more like this
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less than 2015-03-05T11:49:01.093Zmore like thismore than 2015-03-05T11:49:01.093Z
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star this property label Biography information for Dr Dan Poulter more like this
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unstar this property label Biography information for Dr Sarah Wollaston more like this
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star this property date less than 2015-02-26more like thismore than 2015-02-26
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Department of Health remove filter
star this property answering dept id 17 more like this
star this property answering dept short name Health more like this
star this property answering dept sort name Health more like this
star this property hansard heading Eyesight: Testing remove filter
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star this property question text To ask the Secretary of State for Health, if his Department will take steps to improve the uptake of sight tests by children with disabilities. more like this
star this property tabling member constituency Totnes more like this
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Dr Sarah Wollaston more like this
star this property uin 225541 more like this
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unstar this property date of answer less than 2015-03-05more like thismore than 2015-03-05
star this property answer text <p>Children aged under 16 and between 16-18 in full-time education are eligible for free National Health Service funded sight tests.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>In 2013/14, 3.1 million NHS sight tests were provided to children aged up to 18 years, an increase of 6.2% on the previous year. We do not have figures for how many of these children had a disability in general, or a learning disability in particular.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>The Department works with NHS Choices to raise the profile of visual health and promote the importance of regular sight tests.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p> more like this
star this property answering member constituency Central Suffolk and North Ipswich more like this
star this property answering member printed Dr Daniel Poulter more like this
star this property grouped question UIN 225542 more like this
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less than 2015-03-05T11:40:15.203Zmore like thismore than 2015-03-05T11:40:15.203Z
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star this property label Biography information for Dr Dan Poulter more like this
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unstar this property label Biography information for Dr Sarah Wollaston more like this
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star this property date less than 2015-02-26more like thismore than 2015-02-26
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Department of Health remove filter
star this property answering dept id 17 more like this
star this property answering dept short name Health more like this
star this property answering dept sort name Health more like this
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star this property question text To ask the Secretary of State for Health, how many children with a learning disability took a sight test in 2013-14. more like this
star this property tabling member constituency Totnes more like this
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Dr Sarah Wollaston more like this
star this property uin 225542 more like this
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unstar this property date of answer less than 2015-03-05more like thismore than 2015-03-05
star this property answer text <p>Children aged under 16 and between 16-18 in full-time education are eligible for free National Health Service funded sight tests.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>In 2013/14, 3.1 million NHS sight tests were provided to children aged up to 18 years, an increase of 6.2% on the previous year. We do not have figures for how many of these children had a disability in general, or a learning disability in particular.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>The Department works with NHS Choices to raise the profile of visual health and promote the importance of regular sight tests.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p> more like this
star this property answering member constituency Central Suffolk and North Ipswich more like this
star this property answering member printed Dr Daniel Poulter more like this
star this property grouped question UIN 225541 more like this
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less than 2015-03-05T11:40:15.313Zmore like thismore than 2015-03-05T11:40:15.313Z
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star this property label Biography information for Dr Dan Poulter more like this
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4073
unstar this property label Biography information for Dr Sarah Wollaston more like this
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star this property date less than 2015-02-26more like thismore than 2015-02-26
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Department of Health remove filter
star this property answering dept id 17 more like this
star this property answering dept short name Health more like this
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star this property question text To ask the Secretary of State for Health, how many people have received NHS eye tests in (a) Kent, (b) Medway and (c) Gillingham and Rainham constituency in each of the last five years. more like this
star this property tabling member constituency Gillingham and Rainham more like this
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Rehman Chishti more like this
star this property uin 225544 more like this
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unstar this property date of answer less than 2015-03-05more like thismore than 2015-03-05
star this property answer text <p>The information is not available in the format requested. Such information as is available is in the following table.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Number of National Health Service sight tests carried out in Kent and Medway, 2009/10 to 2013/14</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><table><tbody><tr><td><p>Year</p></td><td><p>Area Team/Primary Care Trust</p></td><td><p>Sight Tests</p></td><td><p>Totals</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>2013/14</p></td><td><p>Kent and Medway AT</p></td><td><p>414,953</p></td><td><p>414,953</p></td></tr><tr><td><p>2012/13</p></td><td><p>Eastern and Coastal Kent PCT</p></td><td><p>186,400</p></td><td><p>405,079</p></td></tr><tr><td><p> </p></td><td><p>West Kent PCT</p></td><td><p>163,609</p></td><td><p> </p></td></tr><tr><td><p> </p></td><td><p>Medway PCT</p></td><td><p>55,070</p></td><td><p> </p></td></tr><tr><td><p>2011/12</p></td><td><p>Eastern and Coastal Kent PCT</p></td><td><p>188,533</p></td><td><p>416,246</p></td></tr><tr><td><p> </p></td><td><p>West Kent PCT</p></td><td><p>169,826</p></td><td><p> </p></td></tr><tr><td><p> </p></td><td><p>Medway PCT</p></td><td><p>57,887</p></td><td><p> </p></td></tr><tr><td><p>2010/11</p></td><td><p>Eastern and Coastal Kent PCT</p></td><td><p>182,669</p></td><td><p>399,985</p></td></tr><tr><td><p> </p></td><td><p>West Kent PCT</p></td><td><p>161,816</p></td><td><p> </p></td></tr><tr><td><p> </p></td><td><p>Medway PCT</p></td><td><p>55,500</p></td><td><p> </p></td></tr><tr><td><p>2009/10</p></td><td><p>Eastern and Coastal Kent PCT</p></td><td><p>180,662</p></td><td><p>398,600</p></td></tr><tr><td><p> </p></td><td><p>West Kent PCT</p></td><td><p>162,757</p></td><td><p> </p></td></tr><tr><td><p> </p></td><td><p>Medway PCT</p></td><td><p>55,181</p></td><td><p> </p></td></tr></tbody></table><p> </p><p><em> </em></p><p> </p><p><em>Source: </em>Health and Social Care Information Centre</p><p> </p><p><em> </em></p><p> </p><p><em>Notes:</em></p><p> </p><p><em> </em></p><p> </p><ol start="1" type="1"><li>The Health and Social Care Information Centre (HSCIC) is able to provide the number of NHS sight tests carried out in England, in both primary care and domiciliary settings. These figures are derived from GOS1 forms submitted by practitioners into the Payments System.</li></ol><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><ol start="2" type="1"><li>HSCIC was not able to breakdown the figures by the areas requested. For 2013/14, sight test data were received and published at Area Team level: Kent and Medway. Data prior to 2013/14 was received at PCT level; this is broken down into three areas: Eastern and Coastal Kent, West Kent and Medway.</li></ol><p> </p>
star this property answering member constituency Central Suffolk and North Ipswich more like this
star this property answering member printed Dr Daniel Poulter more like this
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less than 2015-03-05T14:35:01.607Zmore like thismore than 2015-03-05T14:35:01.607Z
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star this property label Biography information for Dr Dan Poulter more like this
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unstar this property label Biography information for Rehman Chishti more like this
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star this property date less than 2015-02-26more like thismore than 2015-02-26
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Department of Health remove filter
star this property answering dept id 17 more like this
star this property answering dept short name Health more like this
star this property answering dept sort name Health more like this
star this property hansard heading Eyesight: Testing remove filter
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star this property pref label House of Commons more like this
star this property question text To ask the Secretary of State for Health, what steps his Department is taking to increase the number of people undergoing regular eye tests. more like this
star this property tabling member constituency Gillingham and Rainham more like this
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Rehman Chishti more like this
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unstar this property date of answer less than 2015-03-05more like thismore than 2015-03-05
star this property answer text <p>The Government recognises that regular sight tests are an important measure in preventing avoidable sight loss.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Free National Health Service sight tests are available to many, including children, people aged 60 and over, people in receipt of certain benefits and those people at particular risk of developing eye disease. There were 12.8 million NHS sight tests in 2013/14, an increase of 3.6% on the previous year.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Information about the extensive arrangements for providing help with NHS optical services and other health costs is published in leaflet HC11 <em>Are you entitled to help with health costs? </em>The Department also works with NHS Choices to raise the profile of visual health and promote the importance of regular sight tests.</p><p> </p> more like this
star this property answering member constituency Central Suffolk and North Ipswich more like this
star this property answering member printed Dr Daniel Poulter more like this
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